This legendary company still makes these in Maine. Old Town One Person Canoe - Kayak Guide 119 This Canoe is brand new and was only tested and then stored indoors. 56 lbs / 25.4 kg. If I do any modifications, like I plan to do to the seat, I’ll be sure to document what I do and share it here on this website. Kevlar canoes are lighter, but the polyethylene composition of the Guide 119 can take a lot more abuse. I prefer bright colours but at least I have a good review I can bench mark some other models against. Seat was remove 2 weeks ago from New Old Town Guide 119 canoe . I looked at a many different makes and models, all way more expensive than the Old Town Guide 119. Comfortable seat with backrest. Longer and more narrow canoes are going to be faster when you paddle them. T-formex is a newer material that seems to be on track as a replacement for Ryloex. How is initial stability? For any portaging over 100 yards it would be nice to have a yoke. I’ve noticed that my usual life-jacket, because it has lower back padding/flotation, pushes up on me when sitting in my canoe. The color… It only comes in a camo pattern. It actually made me a bit more worry or, let’s say, more confused since there are too many of different opinions out there. While. When using a two bladed kayak paddle in the Old Town Guide 119 I didn’t have any issues with stability when underway. Getting ready for several nights in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness. In the grand scheme of things, what I don’t like about the Old Town Guide 119 are pretty minor! In buying any canoe you should purchase based on your needs. Kevlar was originally designed by Dupont to be tough and lightweight, which is why it’s used in law enforcement vest and helmets. Canoes come in a few shapes and sizes. It can take a beating, can hold a lot of gear, maybe is not the lightest canoe out there but far more durable than most, and it is surprisingly stable. I’m a bigger guy too, six foot one inches tall, and I have not had any issues with this canoe in regards to being comfortable. It looks nice enough, but I would have liked to have had a red one! I gotta disagree with your statement concerning kevlar vs. poly. Or a $3000+ Swift pack canoe that weighs 30lbs but should be used only for wet landings, should be lifted over obstructions like beaver damns, lifted onto shore after all gear is removed..etc… For the fifteen or more pounds of weight I have to portage and saving $2400 dollars, I am personally happy with my Old Town Guide 119. But I don’t feel I need to do that. 17.25 in / 43.8 cm. Wise Economy Low Back Seat. Shows typical signs of use, mainly some paint chipping on the metal brackets (around the bolt holes and from clipping things to it). If you are, then the odds are that the outfitter will have some very good input on what canoe would be best for you and your friend. The seat issue I can fix with a couple small spacers added to the back seat’s mounting posts. I was going to try to leave the seat up high, but will it make it to tippy. Anyone familiar with kevlar knows it outlasts and outperforms poly in a canoe application. Yep, totally agree. The paddle I initially purchased when I bought my Guide 119 was 250cm in length, which is a common length for a double bladed paddle. Thanks for reading and the comment. It’s actually very comfortable. This thread is dedicated to documenting my Old Town Guide 119 canoe modifications. Don’t get me wrong – I love Kevlar canoes. Compact and fun to paddle, the Discovery 119 has been a long time favorite. Buying a $30 ash wood yoke and installing it myself is also rather minor. While I find the seat comfortable, the front edge does seem to be lower than the back. Works pretty good as long as I cut it in a single run. My question is do you think that foot supports (braces) can be added similar to the ones that come standard on the discovery 119? For example, the Discovery 119 canoe by Old Town has an MSRP of $699.99, and is a lightweight canoe, that is also marketed as being a great choice for a double-bladed paddle. Most people I talk to seem to be most curious about how stable this smaller canoe really is. Your email address will not be published. The entire time I didn’t feel like my ass was angling forward in my Old Town Guide 119. I’m taking it easy and moving along at a comfortable pace. Available at … Doing a J-stroke can help track you straight but it’s not easy to do in a canoe that you sit low in, and if you could make it work you would find yourself going pretty slow in this canoe. Most can move along at a pretty good clip. Your email address will not be published. The trade off is the poly is heavier to portage, but it also cost a lot less. 2) I am thinking 3 inches below bottom of gunnel. If you treat your poly canoe just the same as you do a Kevlar canoe it is going to last for as long as you live. I to lowered the stock seat heights. Handles great! 1-16 of 68 results for "old town canoe seat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. It’s an easy fix I can do myself but I just need to get around to doing it. After a little research online it sounded like people with similar issues like I was having bought longer paddles which fixed their problem. Thanks for this. My Story: A number of years back, I purchased a blemished Old Town Canoe Discovery 119k from a local canoe and kayak shop for $600. I do appreciate your point of view and your own experience. I went to the local hardware store and purchased a couple half-inch nylon spacers and longer bolts. But once I am sitting down all feels fine. Again, an easy fix. Old Town Next vs Discovery 119 ... 119 Guide 158 Disco Predator 12 MX Yak. Nothing wrong with it, just switching to traditional flat seat. I have paddled between 12ft thru 16ft solo. Frame done. Less so with their canoes made of poly because they can take more abuse and be used over multiple seasons. I also have shoulder issues, so I cannot use a kayak paddle; I have to use a single bladed paddle. Blog › Forums › Fly Fishing › Old Town Guide/Discovery 119 versus Pack 12 This topic has 2 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated Apr 15, 2014 at 9:34 am by Zach Matthews . Also, if I want to take it on a BWCA trip into the wilderness I know I can do that to. Viewing 3 posts - 1 through 3 (of 3 total) Very convenient to just fill it up with whatever water you’re floating in. It’s specially made for Dicks Sporting Goods. While the canoe only weighs around 48 pounds, it didn’t come with a portaging yoke, nor does Old Town Canoes sell one for it. So I went online and found a company (Essex Industries) that makes a detachable yoke that is universal for many canoes. Required fields are marked *. Thanks for the nice comment. Have fun on your trip this year with your friend! More information The Old Town Guide 119 canoe is agile, stable and easy to handle. After 100+ years of designing the most forward-thinking watercrafts, Old Town has developed the most comfortable kayak seating in the industry. You want to make sure you get one that is suitable and designed around being worn in a kayak. If you are going on a canoe trip there is a good chance you will be going through an outfitter… maybe. After years of hard service, not one of the kevlar canoes showed any sign of stress cracks or material separation. It now stays with the canoe dedicated just to being used for ballast. The seat I made is right at 3lbs. $200.00 shipping. I would suggest that if you get one to take out it a few times on a couple calm mornings to get the feel for it. Right now I use a Saranac 146 which is a fine boat for the family, but a bit too heavy for soloing. I take good care of my possessions… but, I plan to use this new canoe on many river and lakes that have underwater rocks and stumps. Several months ago I was 325+ pounds. The seat issue I can fix with a couple small spacers added to the back seat… I’ve greatly appreciated the threads I’ve found to help me decide how to modify mine. Is it slow to paddle? I plan to share more information about my Old Town Guide 119 as I get out there and use it. Also, if you talk to any outfitter in the Superior/Quetico region they complain about how renters abuse their Kevlar canoes because they bump over rocks and beaver damns with them, how they paddle them up into shore and don’t do ‘wet’ landings. I can easily get one and install it, so this is not that big of a deal to me. I saw this in the video, but have any of you guy's done this and how did it work. Old Town Guide 119 Seat Mod. I’ve had my canoe in the water half a dozen times since buying it, twice to the Boundary Waters. I guess Old Town used to make them in red and Green as well, but I have not seen any of those around for a while. I did notice that if I have some weight up front, about thirty pounds, the canoe feels much more stable than it does with no weight up front. So a little change of direction… I spent all day Friday and most of Saturday thinking through the positioning I wanted to use to add the second seat to my 119. All were used for very rough service, while some were even chewed and beaten on by brown bears. But after reading over a hundred reviews from other paddlers and test paddling one for myself, I knew the Old Town Guide 119 was for me. This is actually a common issue with people paddling solo canoes with a double bladed paddle. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. 5 Star Review on "Chicken Coop Old Town Guide 119 Seat Modification" :. It doesn’t have a portage yoke. On small lakes or streams I don’t bother too much with that anymore. Another easy fix. Can this canoe be used by inexperienced canoeist? 31 in / 78.7 cm. The canoe I have now is getting a little rough around the edges, so this spring I am thinking about replacing it. What about secondary stability? However, I am also going to use my Old Town Guide 119 on canoe trips into the wilderness, like the BWCA and Quetico, and that means portaging. In the grand scheme of things, what I don’t like about the Old Town Guide 119 are pretty minor! Like the others in the series, this solo canoe is agile, stable and easy to handle. What’s important to you in a canoe? I ordered mine online and had it shipped to my house. It’s a great little canoe and was a fraction of the cost of those other canoes. Most people who try and use this canoe with a single bladed paddle have problems; the Guide 119 will turn quickly with just a sweep or two. That’s right, Dick’s Sporting Goods is the only place you can buy a Guide 119 for new – either online or from direct point of sales at one of their retails stores. Let the Discovery 119 help you explore new territory. As far as the front seat edge angling down slightly. A couple days ago I took my canoe out for a few hours and noticed immediately that the seat modification worked. 99. Whoever gave you the information you state above was way off. If you like a low maintenance canoe then replacing your existing seats with a blow-molded polyethylene seat is the way to go. While the canoe only weighs around 48 pounds, it didn’t come with a portaging yoke, …

-- Last Updated: Aug-26-14 11:29 AM EST -- Now that I have a foot brace in my Guide 119 I want to replace the seat. I wouldn’t want to carry this canoe, or any canoe for that matter, over a couple hundred yards or more of land between lakes without a yoke. So to sum it up – Initial stability is fine but takes a little getting used to getting in and out of the canoe. I have a 119 and moved mine back a dropped it. Mine has been down multiple rivers including the New River.
Let me know if you have any questions about the Old Town Guide 119. Easy to customized, stable on the water. To be honest I was not overly fond of it either. Old Town Made in USA. Feb 26, 2015 - Shop a wide selection of Old Town Guide 119 Canoe at DICK’S Sporting Goods and order online for the finest quality products from the top brands you trust. I replaced with web seat that I prefer. Guide 119 I’m assuming you’re talking about the Guide 119, which is available in some of the big box stores like Dick’s, and not the Discovery 119. Great little craft flat bottom hull. The OT Pack model were 12 footers and weighed 29 pounds stripped. I do use a shorter paddle though when using the traditional paddle, because I am sitting lower in this canoe and am closer to the water. Old Town Canoes does not make a yoke specifically for the Old Town Guide 119 or the Discovery 119. WEIGHT CAPACITY I’ve had my canoe in the water half a dozen times since buying it, twice to the Boundary Waters. Last August in 2018 I broke down and bought an Old Town Guide 119. Most any experienced canoeist will know from looking at the Old Town Guide 119 or its counterpart the Discovery model 119, that it is short and has a moderate rocker. While mostlycomfortable, I couldn’t help but feel like I was angling slightly forward when sitting. See the image below:  You can see that the lower back area is mesh, and does not have any flotation bulk… this jacket is designed to be worn for kayaking comfort or with seats that have lower back rests. I had been looking at a bunch of other canoes, canoes that were much more expensive. I had been looking pretty hard at a few different solo canoes from various manufactures, but on a gut hunch I went with the Guide 119. Replacement seats to fit old town canoe. An easy fix which only cost me about $3 at the hardware store. It meets all of my needs for a solo canoe: I can load it on my car alone, it holds enough camping gear for a several days, good stability, tracks well, adequate speed, can use it all over the Mid-West, and it was easily affordable when compared to Kevlar canoes that cost five times more. That little bit of weight up front can make a huge difference when first getting comfortable paddling. The seat requires no maintenance and will serve you comfortably for many, many years. The Old Town Guide 119 is a great little canoe for the solo paddler… Not sure if it comes in blue. The new Solo Sportsman 119 is a sweet looking ride! PLEASE CONTACT CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-343-1555 FOR ASSISTANCE. Yep they certainly can be. Thank you for this review. By Orey10m, November 5 in Buy - Sell - Trade. But, I find it takes very little effort with your hands forward on the gunnels to keep the front of the canoe from flipping up to much. Yes, it most certainly did. And thanks to our construction process, it's tough without being too heavy. If you’ve spent any time on Old Town’s website you will not have seen the Guide 119 there anywhere. I believe the hull is the same, but the seat in the Guide is a molded in seat, while the seat in the Disco 119 is the webbed bench seat. The Old Town Guide 119 is going to make this a great canoe season! I look forward to checking out your other articles and reviews to help me make a decision. This is a common complaint I have seen online in other Old Town Guide 119 reviews. Your email address will not be published. I have used a regular canoe paddle in my Old Town Guide 119 from time to time. Dick’s Sporting Goods is the only place that sells them and they have sales on the Old Town Guide 119 often… you can get them for even less than I paid! The seat modification was a simple one. However, there are a couple things…. Is the Old Town Guide 119 a stable canoe for fishing and paddling? 12’ 6” / 3.8 m. WIDTH. I like when a reviewer expresses both the good and the bad aspects of something. Let me tell ya, I’m not a little guy. Don’t get me wrong, without that weight up there it feels fine to me and I have no worries, but I do have to admit having camping gear up front or even just a 5 gallon water container makes it far better than I could ever expect. Easy fix! Okay, so this issue was not the fault of my Old Town Guide 119. I have an old aluminum 17 footer that just sits and never gets used. -- Last Updated: Aug-26-14 11:29 AM EST -- Now that I have a foot brace in my Guide 119 I want to replace the seat. Most standard canoe seats do not hack back support, they are usually just a bench style of seat. You can learn more and buy one here: Dicks Sporting Goods. If you know how to take care and use a Kevlar canoe, as I am sure you do, it is going to last a very long time no doubt about it. My specific likes I have for the Old Town Guide 119: I’ve only had my new canoe for a short while now. it fixed that issue for me. When I got home I simply adding the spacers and replaced using longer bolts, one to each side of the seat’s rear mounting bracket. Luckily there is not much I can say bad about it. Doing so dropped the back of the seat down half an inch and made the front and back level. Brice. Thank you for this great review on Old Town 119 canoe. 2. All things are relative. He wanted to get a canoe but I reckon he’s pretty new with this activity and even though I know he will find his way. There were a few little things that bugged me about it, nothing major, just minor little issues. The ash is from a local lumber mill, and I rip it (for paddles and stuff) with an added circular saw rip fence. But when I go out on larger bodies of water I have some weight up front 95% of the time. This seat can accommodate seat bolt spacing of about 8 to 9 inches (measured front to rear, center to center). But there is a big difference on how you should use a Kevlar canoe over a poly canoe. However, coming along your site and reading about this review made me a bit more comfortable that there is something there which I also can use as a newbie. 08-09-2016 04:40 AM #7. mr. lucky. It takes a little practice to get comfortable with the process, especially because the seat sits lower in this canoe. Lightweight and durable. Did this little trick work? Old Town 119 Canoe Seat. Relate Video Chicken Coop Old Town Guide 119 Seat Modification The problem many people have is they try to place the yoke in a position that will evenly balance the canoe when using the yoke. I am going to put a "real canoe seat" in. Unless they changed it, the seat in that one is too far back, and not easy to move forward, while the seat in the plain Disco 119 is about where it should be. 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